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After 2 years of organizing on meetup Toronto Bladers, in 2021 [[speedy|I will be moving]] to a new platform known as [https://kommunity.com/inline-skating Kommunity]
After 2 years of organizing on meetup Toronto Bladers, in 2021 [[speedy|I will be also organizing]] on a new platform known as [[Kommunity]]


All trail events for distance currently posted on meetup will be moving to [https://kommunity.com/inline-skating Kommunity]. On meetup [[speedy|I will still organize]] minor events for everyone, mostly for fixed locations such as race tracks, parks, slalom and similar.
All trail events for distance, endurance, marathon which require more skilled skaters will be moving to [[Kommunity]]. On meetup [[speedy|I will still organize]] minor events for everyone, mostly for fixed locations such as race tracks, parks, slalom and similar.


== About Kommunity ==
== About Kommunity ==
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# It is free!
# It is free!
# Platform developers that actually listen the users and work together with the users to provide a better experience
# Mobile app without trackers (at the moment of this writing)
# Mobile app without trackers (at the moment of this writing)
# Privacy oriented mobile app.
# Privacy oriented mobile app.
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# Zoom integration  
# Zoom integration  
# Tag options
# Tag options
# Chat history of the group chat platform, is private and under the control of the same group and is removable at any time.
# Chat history of the group chat platform, is private and under the control of the same group and is removable at any time when we use a third party app.


== Reasons to move away meetup ==
== Reasons to move away meetup ==
If a quick research about meetup, their website, app problems, interfaces and at times rude technical support is not reason enough, in comparison with [https://kommunity.com/inline-skating Kommunity], the later offers several advantages starting by not being paid.
If a quick research about meetup, their website, app problems, interfaces and at times rude technical support is not reason enough, in comparison with [[Kommunity]], the later offers several advantages starting by not being paid.


=== The bladers group ===  
=== The bladers group ===  
* Unfortunately management of the group is very restrictive to one person only
* Unfortunately management of the group is very restrictive to one person only who only logs in once or twice a year (if that much)
* Some group management features are not available to all organizers
* Some group management features are not available to all organizers which limits the what the group can do.
* The group has not been updated in almost a decade
* The group has not been updated in almost a decade
* Too many inactive organizers that have not skated for months or years or have given up [[inline skating]].
* Too many inactive organizers that have not skated for months or years or have given up [[inline skating]].
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* Mobile app full of trackers and privacy invasive features
* Mobile app full of trackers and privacy invasive features
* Permanent online chat history
* Permanent online chat history
* Involvement in politics
* Discriminatory methods done by some meetup administrators
* Discriminatory methods done by some meetup administrators
* Paid service
* Paid service
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== Event types ==
== Event types ==
[https://kommunity.com/inline-skating Kommunity] will be to organize intermediate and advanced levels events for the guys that do [[inline skating]] who have demonstrated such levels of skill.
[[Kommunity]] will be to organize intermediate and advanced levels events for invited skaters that do [[inline skating]] who have demonstrated such levels of skill and commitment to the sport.


== Private chat ==
== Private chat ==
The new platform will run with an existing private chat platform which will be filled by invitation only. We use [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.thoughtcrime.securesms signal-app] only and for intermediate and advanced inline skaters.
The new platform will run with an existing private chat platform which will be filled by invitation only. We use [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.thoughtcrime.securesms signal-app] only and for intermediate and advanced inline skaters who are invited.


=== Invitation only ===
=== Invitation only ===
In the past [[wanted|a lot of effort was put into being all inclusive with females]] for the [[inline skating]] events on meetup. However the outcome was not what was expected and therefore, events on [[Kommunity]] will be invite only having in the the following:
In the past [[wanted|a lot of effort was put into being all inclusive with females]] for the [[inline skating]] events on meetup. However the outcome was not what was expected and therefore, events on [[Kommunity]] will be invite only and having in the the following:
   
   
* Over 80% of the RSVP's '''no shows on meetup were from females''' who don't even change their RSVP to let us know that they can't make it.
* Over 80% of the RSVP's '''no shows on meetup were from females''' who don't even change their RSVP to let us know that they can't make it.
* 50% of female participation in the past was more interested in meeting men and hook up rather than actually skating. ''(The group is for skating, not dating. '''No means NO''')''.
* Around 90% of the RSVP's that were initially set to go but then "did not go to the event" have been from females.
* 50% of female participation in the past was more interested in meeting men and hook up rather than actually skating. ''(The group is for skating, not dating. '''No means NO''')''. This is not a dating group, hookup group and or a boot call group.
* Most female skaters that have shown up for events, are actually beginners by any standard even without including [https://www.inlinecertificationprogram.org ICP]. This group is not for beginners of any gender.
* Most female skaters that have shown up for events, are actually beginners by any standard even without including [https://www.inlinecertificationprogram.org ICP]. This group is not for beginners of any gender.
* [https://www.meetup.com/bladers/events/277218107/ There are female exclusive groups and events out there for females]. In the name of equality, there should not be a problem with this group.
* Due to distance, length and characteristics, events on [[Kommunity]] not only require more skilled skaters but also more physical endurance and stamina as they are more physically demanding of the skater.
* [https://www.meetup.com/bladers/events/277218107/ There are female exclusive groups and events out there for females]. In the name of equality, there should not be a problem with this group and who is in it.


== Links ==
== Links ==
* [https://kommunity.com/inline-skating Kommunity skating group]
* [https://kommunity.com/ Explore Kommunity]
* [https://kommunity.com/ Explore Kommunity]
* [https://kommunity.com/features Kommunity features and comparison with others]
* [https://kommunity.com/features Kommunity features and comparison with others]

Revision as of 21:24, 31 March 2021

After 2 years of organizing on meetup Toronto Bladers, in 2021 I will be also organizing on a new platform known as Kommunity

All trail events for distance, endurance, marathon which require more skilled skaters will be moving to Kommunity. On meetup I will still organize minor events for everyone, mostly for fixed locations such as race tracks, parks, slalom and similar.

About Kommunity

As a platform Kommunity brings several advantages in comparison to meetup.

  1. It is free!
  2. Platform developers that actually listen the users and work together with the users to provide a better experience
  3. Mobile app without trackers (at the moment of this writing)
  4. Privacy oriented mobile app.
  5. Private profiles
  6. Private events
  7. Electronic waivers upon registration
  8. Event text formatting and embedded links
  9. Member follower options
  10. Event participant approval list
  11. Integration with at least 7 social media platforms
  12. Free choice of independent chat platforms
  13. Unlimited RSVPs, always free
  14. Wait listing option
  15. Upload videos, slides and photos
  16. Create talks and tutorials about the activity
  17. Better disclaimers and waiver system upon joining group
  18. Custom questioners
  19. Member invitation options (email, link, etc)
  20. Zoom integration
  21. Tag options
  22. Chat history of the group chat platform, is private and under the control of the same group and is removable at any time when we use a third party app.

Reasons to move away meetup

If a quick research about meetup, their website, app problems, interfaces and at times rude technical support is not reason enough, in comparison with Kommunity, the later offers several advantages starting by not being paid.

The bladers group

  • Unfortunately management of the group is very restrictive to one person only who only logs in once or twice a year (if that much)
  • Some group management features are not available to all organizers which limits the what the group can do.
  • The group has not been updated in almost a decade
  • Too many inactive organizers that have not skated for months or years or have given up inline skating.
  • Too many catfish members that only RSVP to mess with the event
  • Too many bots pretending to be members
  • Too many members that never login or even subscribe to the group notices
  • Too many female accounts that are actually bots just to try to attract men
  • Too many members that are not even in Canada but actually live in other countries and never join any event
  • Too many members that block messages from organizers
  • Main organizer has never addressed any of these issues
  • Main organizer has given up skating and moved to a different sport and has not done maintenance to the group
  • Rude meetup tech support
  • Mobile app full of trackers and privacy invasive features
  • Permanent online chat history
  • Involvement in politics
  • Discriminatory methods done by some meetup administrators
  • Paid service
  • Poor social media integration
  • others...

Event types

Kommunity will be to organize intermediate and advanced levels events for invited skaters that do inline skating who have demonstrated such levels of skill and commitment to the sport.

Private chat

The new platform will run with an existing private chat platform which will be filled by invitation only. We use signal-app only and for intermediate and advanced inline skaters who are invited.

Invitation only

In the past a lot of effort was put into being all inclusive with females for the inline skating events on meetup. However the outcome was not what was expected and therefore, events on Kommunity will be invite only and having in the the following:

  • Over 80% of the RSVP's no shows on meetup were from females who don't even change their RSVP to let us know that they can't make it.
  • Around 90% of the RSVP's that were initially set to go but then "did not go to the event" have been from females.
  • 50% of female participation in the past was more interested in meeting men and hook up rather than actually skating. (The group is for skating, not dating. No means NO). This is not a dating group, hookup group and or a boot call group.
  • Most female skaters that have shown up for events, are actually beginners by any standard even without including ICP. This group is not for beginners of any gender.
  • Due to distance, length and characteristics, events on Kommunity not only require more skilled skaters but also more physical endurance and stamina as they are more physically demanding of the skater.
  • There are female exclusive groups and events out there for females. In the name of equality, there should not be a problem with this group and who is in it.

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