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After 2 years of organizing on meetup Toronto Bladers, in 2021 [[speedy|I will be also organizing]] on a new platform known as [[Kommunity]]
'''Update 20/08/2022:''' As of 2022, this platform is not taking new members


All trail events for distance, endurance, marathon which require more skilled skaters will be moving to [[Kommunity]]. On meetup [[speedy|I will still organize]] minor events for everyone, mostly for fixed locations such as race tracks, parks, slalom and similar.
== 2022 ==
Due to very poor development of [[kommunity]], lots of bugs and platform errors, in 2022 a decision to stop using the platform was made.
As of January 2023, we are no longer using [[kommunity]].
 
== Origins ==
After 2 years of organizing on meetup [[Toronto Bladers]], in 2021 [[speedy|I will be also organizing]] on a new platform known as [[Kommunity]]
 
All trail events for distance, endurance, marathon which require more skilled skaters will be moving to [[Kommunity]]. On meetup [[speedy|I may still organize]] minor events for everyone, mostly for fixed locations such as race tracks, parks, [[slalom]] and similar.
 
'''Do not join without talking to an organizer'''


== About Kommunity ==
== About Kommunity ==
As a platform '''Kommunity''' brings several advantages in comparison to meetup.
As a platform, in 2021 '''Kommunity''' brought several advantages in comparison to meetup.


# It is free!
# It is free!
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# Integration with at least 7 social media platforms
# Integration with at least 7 social media platforms
# Free choice of independent chat platforms
# Free choice of independent chat platforms
# Unlimited RSVPs, always free
# Unlimited RSVPs and always free
# Wait listing option
# Wait listing option
# Upload videos, slides and photos
# Upload videos, slides and photos
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# Tag options
# Tag options
# Chat history of the group chat platform, is private and under the control of the same group and is removable at any time when we use a third party app.
# Chat history of the group chat platform, is private and under the control of the same group and is removable at any time when we use a third party app.
== Reasons to move away meetup ==
If a quick research about meetup, their website, app problems, interfaces and at times rude technical support is not reason enough, in comparison with [[Kommunity]], the later offers several advantages starting by not being paid.
=== The bladers group ===
* Unfortunately management of the group is very restrictive to one person only who only logs in once or twice a year (if that much)
* Some group management features are not available to all organizers which limits the what the group can do.
* The group has not been updated in almost a decade
* Meetup accounts getting disabled for ''chatting to much'' among friends in private
* Meetup accounts getting disabled because the member logged in from another country or from what is thought not to be a usual ip address connection
* Meetup accounts getting disabled because of meetup spam filters that ignore legit communication between members
* Meetup accounts getting punished because someone complained about someone else that was not woke and therefore was against minorities
* Too many inactive organizers that have not skated for months or years or have given up [[inline skating]].
* Too many catfish members that only RSVP to mess with the event
* Too many bots pretending to be members
* Too many members that never login or even subscribe to the group notices
* Too many ''female'' accounts that are actually bots just to try to attract men
* Too many women that RSVP and last minute do not show up to the event and don't even care to change the RSVP to let us know
* Too many women looking for hookups or for that cute guy that they might meet, instead of actually skating
* Too many members that are not even in Canada but actually live in other countries and never join any event
* Too many members that block messages from organizers
* In 2021 around 400 accounts have not logged in to the group in over 2 years
* in 2021, 90% of the skaters are assumed beginners in terms of skill according to their profiles
* Main organizer has never addressed any group issues or assigned someone to them
* Main organizer has given up skating and moved to a different sport and has not done maintenance to the group
* Rude meetup tech support
* Mobile app full of trackers and privacy invasive features
* Permanent online chat history
* Involvement in politics
* Discriminatory methods done by some meetup administrators
* Paid service
* Poor social media integration
* others...


== Event types ==
== Event types ==
[[Kommunity]] will be to organize intermediate and advanced levels events for invited skaters that do [[inline skating]] who have demonstrated such levels of skill and commitment to the sport.
[[Kommunity]] will be to organize intermediate and advanced levels events for invited skaters that do [[inline skating]] who have demonstrated such levels of skill and commitment to the sport and have adequate equipment that matches the group. The platform is not perfect but will be used until we move more adequate and more suitable alternative unless, [[Kommunity]] improves  it's features.


== Private chat ==
== Private chat ==
The new platform will run with an existing private chat platform which will be filled by invitation only. We use [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.thoughtcrime.securesms signal-app] only and for intermediate and advanced inline skaters who are invited.
The new platform will run with an existing private chat app which will be filled by invitation only for members of the skating group. We use [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.thoughtcrime.securesms signal-app] only and for intermediate and advanced inline skaters who are invited upon skating with us.


=== Invitation only ===
== Invitation only ==
In the past [[wanted|a lot of effort was put into being all inclusive with females]] for the [[inline skating]] events on meetup. However the outcome was not what was expected and therefore, events on [[Kommunity]] will be invite only and having in mind the following:
In the past [[wanted|a lot of effort was put into being all inclusive with females]] for the [[inline skating]] events on meetup. However the outcome was not what was expected and therefore, events on [[Kommunity]] will be invite only and having in mind the following:
   
   
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* Most female skaters that have shown up for events, are actually beginners by any standard even without including [https://www.inlinecertificationprogram.org ICP]. This group is not for beginners of any gender.
* Most female skaters that have shown up for events, are actually beginners by any standard even without including [https://www.inlinecertificationprogram.org ICP]. This group is not for beginners of any gender.
* Due to distance, length and characteristics, events on [[Kommunity]] not only require more skilled skaters but also more physical endurance and stamina as they are more physically demanding of the skater.  
* Due to distance, length and characteristics, events on [[Kommunity]] not only require more skilled skaters but also more physical endurance and stamina as they are more physically demanding of the skater.  
* [https://www.meetup.com/bladers/events/277218107/ There are female exclusive groups and events out there for females]. In the name of equality, there should not be a problem with this group and who is in it.
* [https://www.meetup.com/bladers/events/277218107/ There are female exclusive groups and events out there for females] and there is also the [https://kommunity.com/rollerbabes rollerbabes] which is supported by [[Toronto Bladers]]. In the name of equality, there should not be a problem with this group and who is in it.
 
== See also ==
* [[Group and account maintenance]] (where is my membership) ?
* [[Reasons to move away from meetup Toronto rollerblade inline skater group]]


== Links ==
== Links ==
* [https://kommunity.com/ Explore Kommunity]
* [https://kommunity.com/ Explore Kommunity]
* [https://kommunity.com/features Kommunity features and comparison with others]
* [https://kommunity.com/features Kommunity features and comparison with others]
[[Category:Platforms]]

Latest revision as of 07:23, 7 February 2023

Update 20/08/2022: As of 2022, this platform is not taking new members

2022

Due to very poor development of kommunity, lots of bugs and platform errors, in 2022 a decision to stop using the platform was made. As of January 2023, we are no longer using kommunity.

Origins

After 2 years of organizing on meetup Toronto Bladers, in 2021 I will be also organizing on a new platform known as Kommunity

All trail events for distance, endurance, marathon which require more skilled skaters will be moving to Kommunity. On meetup I may still organize minor events for everyone, mostly for fixed locations such as race tracks, parks, slalom and similar.

Do not join without talking to an organizer

About Kommunity

As a platform, in 2021 Kommunity brought several advantages in comparison to meetup.

  1. It is free!
  2. Platform developers that actually listen the users and work together with the users to provide a better experience
  3. Mobile app without trackers (at the moment of this writing)
  4. Privacy oriented mobile app.
  5. Private profiles
  6. Private events
  7. Electronic waivers upon registration
  8. Event text formatting and embedded links
  9. Member follower options
  10. Event participant approval list
  11. Integration with at least 7 social media platforms
  12. Free choice of independent chat platforms
  13. Unlimited RSVPs and always free
  14. Wait listing option
  15. Upload videos, slides and photos
  16. Create talks and tutorials about the activity
  17. Better disclaimers and waiver system upon joining group
  18. Custom questioners
  19. Member invitation options (email, link, etc)
  20. Zoom integration
  21. Tag options
  22. Chat history of the group chat platform, is private and under the control of the same group and is removable at any time when we use a third party app.

Event types

Kommunity will be to organize intermediate and advanced levels events for invited skaters that do inline skating who have demonstrated such levels of skill and commitment to the sport and have adequate equipment that matches the group. The platform is not perfect but will be used until we move more adequate and more suitable alternative unless, Kommunity improves it's features.

Private chat

The new platform will run with an existing private chat app which will be filled by invitation only for members of the skating group. We use signal-app only and for intermediate and advanced inline skaters who are invited upon skating with us.

Invitation only

In the past a lot of effort was put into being all inclusive with females for the inline skating events on meetup. However the outcome was not what was expected and therefore, events on Kommunity will be invite only and having in mind the following:

  • Over 80% of the RSVP's no shows on meetup were from females who don't even change their RSVP to let us know that they can't make it.
  • Around 90% of the RSVP's that were initially set to go but then "did not go to the event" have been from females.
  • 50% of female participation in the past was more interested in meeting men and hook up rather than actually skating. (The group is for skating, not dating. No means NO). This is not a dating group, hookup group and or a boot call group.
  • Most female skaters that have shown up for events, are actually beginners by any standard even without including ICP. This group is not for beginners of any gender.
  • Due to distance, length and characteristics, events on Kommunity not only require more skilled skaters but also more physical endurance and stamina as they are more physically demanding of the skater.
  • There are female exclusive groups and events out there for females and there is also the rollerbabes which is supported by Toronto Bladers. In the name of equality, there should not be a problem with this group and who is in it.

See also

Links